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Rail4You C-Sine Like Motors

In this paper we will discuss the Rail4You C-Sine motors and their respective drivers.  We will evaluate various manufacturer's locomotives. The candidates are:

  • A  Märklin locomotive retrofitted with the Rail4You motor
  • A HAG locomotive retrofitted with the Rail4You motor
  • An older Fleischmann locomotive retrofitted with the Rail4You motor
  • A Märklin  C-Sine Locomotive retrofitted with the Rail4You  C-Sine driver and a DCC decoder

Lets discuss the motor and its very modular construction. These motors are identical to the renown Märklin C-Sine motors. In fact the interface and construction are almost identical. The servo motor has 9 drive coils just like its Märklin  counterpart. Even the flex connector strip is also identical. The motor is fully self contained in the central rotor itself.. Take a look at the images and you will see all the bulk around it is actually the bezel that is specific to the type of manufacturer's motor mounting specs. The motor is all solid cast brass with minor manual machining. They are definitely manually machined but never the less very finely crafted. Care must be taken when handling the flex circuit connector. If damaged may mean a new motor (very expensive). The bezels are what make it specific to the type of model it will mate with. Three screws are all that are needed to dismantle the rotor/armature from the the bezel. The complete assembly is much heavier than the original manufacturer's motors. It might be worth while testing  these motors without drive tires on the wheels.

Lets us get back to the three of the original four candidates. First we will take a look at these locomotives and how their drives and motors are constructed. The choices are (L to R) Märklin Ae 6/6, HAG Ae 6/6, & a Fleischmann Prussian T18 (BR 78). The three locomotives that will receive the Rail4You C-Sine motor and are similar in the way their drive gear mechanisms are constructed. They all use spur gear mechanisms with the motive power in the same direction as the drive. The motors and the mounting specs are however very different.

The Märklin locomotive has the standard 5-Pole motor from the 60904 kit. The Rail4You motor comes with two different bezels to accommodate the different face plates that also come with the Märklin 60904 kit. Retrofitting the Märklin  locomotive was the easiest. No machining was required. However the motor had to be disassembled and remounted with the appropriate bezel (in this case the one with the drive suspension built in.

 

 

 

The HAG locomotive has the classic type 88 DC motor. However the bezel for this motor does not fit. Some minor machining on the motor base will have to be done to retrofit this motor.

 

 

 

 

 

The Fleischmann locomotive is the oddest of the three. Its motor is round with a 3-pole armature. The bezel for this motor is perfectly machined to fit in the base. The brass bushing on the base has to be removed and the bore expanded to accommodate the new gear and rotor.

 

 

 

 

 

 Rail4You supplies two different types drivers. They are drivers for the Rail4You motor and one for the  Märklin C-Sine motor. They  are similar but just different enough that they cannot be interchanged. Yes it is now possible to drive a Märklin C-Sine motor with a DCC decoder using this driver.

 

 

 

 

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